Before the Minister sits down, I have two questions.

I congratulate the hon. Member for Manchester, Gorton on persevering with his Bill through our Committee sittings.

I know from personal experience what it takes to win a seat from the Labour party, and hold it. Does my right hon.

I share the concern of the hon.

I share the concern of the hon.

I share the concern of the hon.

I will endeavour to speak briefly. It is a great pleasure to be here at our 30th meeting. I have been to many of them—not all of them.

I had not intended to speak, but, as ever, the hon. Member for Manchester, Gorton has provoked me. On the point that the hon.

I accept some of the arguments that the hon. Gentleman makes.

No, I fundamentally disagree, for this reason. I will give the hon. Lady a couple of examples.